There's a version two because if you google Cobra Power Pro Problems or Junk you'll find a lot of interesting posts.
Quote from: TOXIC on Nov 12, 2012, 02:59:14 PMQuote from: t84a on Nov 12, 2012, 12:42:58 PMThanks. I thought the Gen 1 had issues. If not, why is there a Gen 2?why is there a pc2,3,4,5 its called improvement...1. Your logic is flawed. There are not multiple versions of the PC III, PCV, etc.2. I stated this because of posts claiming defects with the original version.
Quote from: t84a on Nov 12, 2012, 12:42:58 PMThanks. I thought the Gen 1 had issues. If not, why is there a Gen 2?why is there a pc2,3,4,5 its called improvement...
Thanks. I thought the Gen 1 had issues. If not, why is there a Gen 2?
I contacted Cobra and they told me there was no Gen 1 or Gen 2. I think the guy's name was Brad.
Quote from: Capt_Zoom on Nov 12, 2012, 05:10:38 PMThere's a version two because if you google Cobra Power Pro Problems or Junk you'll find a lot of interesting posts.I'm sure there's some history I've missed, which is the basis for your hatred of Cobra.
very surprised no one has bothered to answer their own questions from this thread whilst utilizing the search function...http://www.roadstarraider.com/index.php?topic=15847.0
Quote from: TOXIC on Nov 13, 2012, 11:11:06 AMvery surprised no one has bothered to answer their own questions from this thread whilst utilizing the search function...http://www.roadstarraider.com/index.php?topic=15847.0That thread you mentioned is why I feel the Power pro was rushed. What company doesn't seal their unit or at least double check that it can work when submerged. Glad they made if right for you by giving you a new ver2 unit but unless they seal the box this would be a deal breaker for me, and I don't even ride in the rain that often. The other problems I've found since when researching it (yep I was thinking of trying it out just because I like to tinker) seem to be due to a lot of bad units (most of this research came from HD's, Hondas, and Kawi's). It seems to work better (or at least there are fewer complaints) on yamaha's than other bikes.
I installed mine where the instruction say . On top of the ECU It under the rubber cover that protects that area . I have my insurance and reg papers right next to it. I have power washed rode in rain and nothing ever got wet. I am still trying to figure out how you all get these so wet . I guess I could try jumping my pool and if I fail might get it wet
Quote from: Capt_Zoom on Nov 13, 2012, 11:27:19 AMQuote from: TOXIC on Nov 13, 2012, 11:11:06 AMvery surprised no one has bothered to answer their own questions from this thread whilst utilizing the search function...http://www.roadstarraider.com/index.php?topic=15847.0That thread you mentioned is why I feel the Power pro was rushed. What company doesn't seal their unit or at least double check that it can work when submerged. Glad they made if right for you by giving you a new ver2 unit but unless they seal the box this would be a deal breaker for me, and I don't even ride in the rain that often. The other problems I've found since when researching it (yep I was thinking of trying it out just because I like to tinker) seem to be due to a lot of bad units (most of this research came from HD's, Hondas, and Kawi's). It seems to work better (or at least there are fewer complaints) on yamaha's than other bikes. ok let me debunk this thought.Talking to Phil long ago in a galaxy far far away...cobra coats the boards in a automotive resin that "seals" the board to a point. The connector block that the cable plugs into isnt coated in this resin as we all know it would impede any electrical conductivity. This is the issue with the unit and moisture. When they dip it, they dip it down to a point and stop. Yes they could seal the unit and make it impossible to get into and if there was a problem with the unit outside of moisture then the owner would have to totally remove all the wiring tear it out and send it back. Phils thought process on this was to make it easier for the end user to just simply pop open the case, pull the board off and send just the board for warranty if it had a defect. Thus why the case itself isnt sealed. He also mentioned that they dont fill the case with resin or epoxy or a filler, as trying to get the board out of it would be a PITA and ultimately they would have to replace the board, wiring and case because of this.IIRC They do submerge test the boards but in plain water and it works fine, up here the road salts are what made conductivity and started ruining the board for a 2 hour rain soaked ride.Phil is working on another method to waterproof the board better or seal the case itself but the whole premise of how he did things was so that We the users would have to do very little to get the board out and not have to disassemble the bike to get the whole thing out.pop the seat, pop the case open, pull board out and ship the board. Easy.other tuners you have to gut the whole thing and cables out to have it fixed.I am positive that other fuel injection tuners had their share of issues on the first version that was put out and people hated them.For me i would much rather just put a $.01 ziplock bag on my tuner and not worry about what the hell it looks like under my seat where nobody can see it.... If a person is concerned about having to do this then shut up and dont get the power pro. I like the fact that i spent my money on a tuner that allows me to do whatever mod i want, whenever i want and not have to pay for a dyno tune every time or another expensive "autotune" unit of which people still end up doing dyno tunes for some reason with it. I like that it is plug and play and will adapt to any environment, altitude, humidity, etc etc etc... and please tell me how something is rushed when they have been working on the powerpro for many years before its release? <---- this is from Phil himself.Class dismissed.