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Title: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: yamaharaider on Dec 04, 2018, 02:51:16 pm
Looking for a battery for a little faster turn over of my Raider.It appears to struggle as if a few more cca would be a big improvement. Open to any and all recommendations about type and brand. I am in need of a new battery and so I thought it would not hurt to ask some of you what has worked, been reliable and cost effective.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ROADKILL on Dec 04, 2018, 02:56:56 pm
I use a Yuasa get 5+ years service out of one
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Clayton on Dec 04, 2018, 03:25:26 pm
The factory yuasa lasted the best form me. Tried a scorpion and it sucked. Went back with a yuasa again
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Kaibab on Dec 04, 2018, 04:00:10 pm
I have a Shorai lithium iron battery.   Meh...   It works and it doesn't need to be connected to a battery tender since I have only 4K miles on my 2008 ,,,   I am not a good reference point ...
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Ares X on Dec 04, 2018, 09:48:55 pm
The OEM battery.  Most motorcycle batteries seldom last much longer than a year in AZ. The OEM batteries have lasted about 3 years for us. 
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: SLK on Dec 05, 2018, 02:19:51 am
We see a lot of Yuasa in Alaskai have gotten 10 years on my motocycle battery and 7 on my 4 wheeler.  They do see a lot of down time though and I use a battery tender religiously.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Kevs UK Raider SCL on Dec 05, 2018, 05:49:13 am
We see a lot of Yuasa in Alaskai have gotten 10 years on my motocycle battery and 7 on my 4 wheeler.  They do see a lot of down though and use a battery tender religiously.

Same here in the UK... Original Yuasa lasts 7-10 years on our Raiders, so would replace with a Yuasa in my opinion.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: A.T. on Dec 05, 2018, 07:56:20 am
I'd take the battery to get load tested.  If it's four (or more) years old, consider replacing it.  I went to Batteries Plus - no issues with their Duracell AGM.

"Hard cranking" has been discussed on this forum (ad nauseum).  Aside from battery replacement, other solutions include using a battery with higher CCA, checking/cleaning the terminals at the battery/starter, installing heavier amp-load cables, starter rebuild/replacement, replacing the starter torque limiter, and lifter adjustment/replacement - have I missed any?

I did most of the aforementioned; however, my hard starting issue completely went away when I replaced all four of my lifters.  Not sure if it was the lifters and subsequent valve adjustment that did the trick, or simply the work (maybe the mx tweaked the comp release?),  but my bike spins up awesomely without effort with a three year old battery.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Kevs UK Raider SCL on Dec 05, 2018, 08:01:18 am
https://www.maxairengineering.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ME&Product_Code=MAX-RAIDER-CABLE&Category_Code=RAIDER

I've got these that A.T mentioned
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Phalcun on Dec 08, 2018, 11:48:20 pm
I got a 360 amp Ballistic Performance lithium ion, its overkill but a good battery and fits the Raider box perfect, their battery, model EVO3, size and kit # EVX16-12, which includes a nifty battery monitor, about $300, it's a couple sizes bigger than necessary but I got it to fit the box, its light too. should last for years, been starting good here in the high 30's to 40's temp lately.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Fiddles on Dec 09, 2018, 06:28:12 am
I got a 360 amp Ballistic Performance lithium ion, its overkill but a good battery and fits the Raider box perfect, their battery, model EVO3, size and kit # EVX16-12, which includes a nifty battery monitor, about $300, it's a couple sizes bigger than necessary but I got it to fit the box, its light too. should last for years, been starting good here in the high 30's to 40's temp lately.
I have a EVX16-12 I had put in my Raider before I traded it in but removed it since it was new and put the old one back in  , if anyone is interested  PM me
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ernie on Mar 02, 2019, 02:16:36 pm
We see a lot of Yuasa in Alaskai have gotten 10 years on my motocycle battery and 7 on my 4 wheeler.  They do see a lot of down time though and I use a battery tender religiously.

Exactly this, I still have my stock Yuasa installed in my 09, I credit to using a Battery Tender brand tender whenever the bike isnít ridden. When it comes time...

https://www.batterymart.com/p-YT14B-4-AGM-Maintenance-Free-Battery.html
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Dark Matter on Mar 03, 2019, 06:27:41 am
Bought my bike new in March of '13 (could have been the end of Feb); I replaced my OEM battery with an Xtreme AGM 14B-BS in 2015 for about $80.  Replaced that one with the same thing yesterday.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: cobaltss01 on Mar 06, 2019, 10:13:15 am
That Ballistic battery seemed to be a good option but they went out of business.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ElGuapoLoco on Mar 16, 2019, 08:12:01 am
I chose a Bikemaster lithium ion with 250 cold cranking amps.  Solved the slow cranking thing.  Light as a feather.  Bought it last year so I can not comment on longevity.  Cost was ~ $150.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ernie on Mar 16, 2019, 08:51:33 am
Bought my bike new in March of '13 (could have been the end of Feb); I replaced my OEM battery with an Xtreme AGM 14B-BS in 2015 for about $80.  Replaced that one with the same thing yesterday.

 It seems you are replacing your batteries more often than Iíve heard others. Do you have many electrical accessories or something that might be a normal occurrence causing your batteries to fail about every three or four years? Do you use a battery tender when the bike is parked at home and not being ridden?
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Dark Matter on Mar 16, 2019, 10:02:05 am
My bike sits in a hot Florida garage when it's idle...no tender.  Heat eats batteries.  My truck/car batteries are usually around 5 years; the boat is a little better, but that may be 'cuz I put the charger on that thing more often.  On the bright side, I get to ride a lot, but on the down side, I live in kinda south Florida, so the rides are straight and flat.  $80 every 4 years, $20/year, ~$.05/day...cheap enough.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Ares X on Mar 16, 2019, 11:42:52 am
My bike sits in a hot Florida garage when it's idle...no tender.  Heat eats batteries.  My truck/car batteries are usually around 5 years; the boat is a little better, but that may be 'cuz I put the charger on that thing more often.  On the bright side, I get to ride a lot, but on the down side, I live in kinda south Florida, so the rides are straight and flat.  $80 every 4 years, $20/year, ~$.05/day...cheap enough.

I hear you. We have the same issue in AZ.  I was told by battery dealers that you're lucky if you get more than a year on a motorcycle battery in AZ.  The OEM batteries last about 3 years, so we have been sticking with those.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Kaibab on Mar 17, 2019, 06:44:22 am
This thread cursed me....   I was just thinking how well my Shoari battery has held up over the years,  went in the garage and found it dead....
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ernie on Mar 19, 2019, 05:11:01 pm
This thread cursed me....   I was just thinking how well my Shoari battery has held up over the years,  went in the garage and found it dead....

How old is your battery?
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Kaibab on Mar 19, 2019, 05:13:53 pm
Lasted 5 years ....  Luckily I have backup

Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Kaibab on Mar 20, 2019, 04:26:45 pm
Battery replaced with same make/model, since I already purchased the proprietary charger BMS years back...    Luckily the Florida weather has been crappy the last 3 days so no missed riding...
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: dukedomain on Mar 21, 2019, 07:55:55 pm
Battery tender Lithium 240
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ernie on May 21, 2019, 11:55:16 am
I just replaced my 2009 stock battery with the new exact stock replacement. The bike is always on a tender when parked at home and I felt that almost 10 years with the stock battery warranted sticking with Yuasa. Itís not like the Raider will feel a few less pounds by going Lithium, but my wallet sure would. The original battery still worked, but a few times it started slowly, on a load test it dropped to ~10 so it was retired and will Power an electric fence around my garden with a HF solar charger on it.  She cranks over like new again, even when hot, no worries. The Amazon vendor emailed me saying they are genuine before I ordered, and it was. Best price I found with free shipping.

Yuasa YUAM624B4 YT14B-BS Battery https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001AWDX92/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_sUc5CbWRMT93A
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: TRaider_John on May 21, 2019, 12:39:21 pm
My 2009 has had the original and one replacement Yausa battery.  I just needed to replace it, but the dealer would have to order one,  In desperation, I checked with the local Batteries + and they had a replacement in stock.  Turns out it doesn't take the same mounting hardware (the stock connectors are too large) but the correct stuff comes with it.  I dropped it in and the bike starts like it did when new.  Obviously I can't speak to longevity, but for $89.95 plus tax Zippy is back on the road and getting better mileage than before.  , 
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ernie on May 22, 2019, 05:40:23 pm
I replaced my original 2009 Yuasa last weekend with another Yuasa. It had been starting slow, especially when hot though never failed to start. The old battery will now power my solar charged electric garden fence, I bought this one after confirming with the seller he sold the genuine product and he did.

Yuasa YUAM624B4 YT14B-BS Battery https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001AWDX92/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_f8C5Cb6FK82DF

Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: bacchus40 on Sep 16, 2019, 06:54:28 pm
Battery replaced with same make/model, since I already purchased the proprietary charger BMS years back...   

a little odd it only lasted 5 years.. do you put it on storage mode while not riding?

i run Shorai on my R1 and have the charger as well..  I will get one for my Raider in a year or so..

she's about to take a break.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Dirtiegirtie on Sep 19, 2019, 06:30:18 am
I went with this battery: Battery Tender BTL14A300CW Supersmart BMS Lithium Battery, 12V 5.0Ah, 300CCA, Black
I put one in my warrior and put one in my Raider when I got her. The battery fits in the stock battery box without modification, but it is basically a line-to-line fit.
In the warrior the difference was night and day compared to the AGM. She spun so quick!
In the raider she spins a tiny bit quicker than the AGM that came out of her but not a ton and it really depends on the outside temp. I would say around 45F the LI and AGM are equal. At 75F she spins much stronger with the LI.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: heftysmurf on Sep 19, 2019, 12:03:32 pm
Also in the Warrior I remember when I swapped in the Flamewires it really helped since the stock wiring was so thin.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: bacchus40 on Sep 19, 2019, 09:36:14 pm
In the raider she spins a tiny bit quicker than the AGM that came out of her but not a ton and it really depends on the outside temp. I would say around 45F the LI and AGM are equal. At 75F she spins much stronger with the LI.

this appears to be an accurate post.. its because Lithium batteries arent as strong at lower temperatures, which is
weird as the ideal storage temperature is literally 'just' above freezing, meaning if you live in an area where winter
is a thing, you're better off setting the LifePo4 battery to 'storage mode' if available and just leaving it in the bike
instead of bringing the battery into the house where you're likely to have home heating.

the trick with LifePo4 batteries doesnt always work great on the Raider as the HEAD-LIGHT does not come on
until you actually 'start' or try to start the motorcycle.  On bikes like the R1 (some cruisers as well) the headlight
actually comes on as soon as you turn the key to 'on' without having to hit the starter button.

Letting the headlight turn on b4 you actually start your bike (like 30 seconds really) allows electrons to flow
which then warms the battery to 'operating temp' or damn close.  At that point if you hit the starter i bet
you will find the LifePo4 gets the engine going faster than the agm.  This is something we have seen
for years on the R1s.   My Shorai has much more cold cranking amps than the shitty Yuasa which came with.

i think its funny some folks still brag about Yuasa, guess they were lucky enough not to get caught by the
shitty batch of Yuasa batteries which hit most motorcycles from both Honda and Yamaha circa 2008 / 2009 / 2010.

Literally it felt like every other day there was one more post bitching of a dead battery, brand new bike, straight off the floor.

My dealer actually tested my battery and found it failed so even b4 i picked it up, they had already swapped it. :D
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Lulu on Sep 20, 2019, 07:20:44 am
Bought one from Battery Plus for 90$. 4000mi so far, but just two weeks old. Nothing to complain, works great.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Dark Matter on Sep 22, 2019, 08:01:16 am
Bought one from Battery Plus for 90$. 4000mi so far, but just two weeks old. Nothing to complain, works great.

I did the same thing...works fine.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: TRaider_John on Sep 22, 2019, 07:54:14 pm

If it is a 12 VDC battery, fits in the box, connects to the wiring, cranks and runs the bike, then I recommend it.  It is much better than any alternative that doesn't do that.   :)
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: woodog on Aug 31, 2020, 05:48:18 pm
Purchased a earthXETX18B... Time will tell....
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Dirtiegirtie on Aug 12, 2021, 09:21:52 am
I went with this battery: Battery Tender BTL14A300CW Supersmart BMS Lithium Battery, 12V 5.0Ah, 300CCA, Black
I put one in my warrior and put one in my Raider when I got her. The battery fits in the stock battery box without modification, but it is basically a line-to-line fit.
In the warrior the difference was night and day compared to the AGM. She spun so quick!
In the raider she spins a tiny bit quicker than the AGM that came out of her but not a ton and it really depends on the outside temp. I would say around 45F the LI and AGM are equal. At 75F she spins much stronger with the LI.

I had a fun morning, so I thought I would go back and see when I actually purchased this battery. I haven't ridden the Raider in 2-3 weeks (other bike and vacation). I went out to start her up around 5am this morning... >CLICK<... the engine doesn't turn over. I know sometimes the battery has to 'warm' up a bit so I try a few more times and she turns over and starts. I think, "It'll charge up on my way to the gym." It's a 12 minute ride to the gym, but I figured it would have a bit more juice after the short ride and it WAS able to start the bike at home. I leave the gym around 6:30 and... >CLICK<... but weaker. Then she just gave up all together. I pushed it up the hill in the parking lot (getting my second workout for the day) and then proceeded to try to push start her 3 times... no go. After asking folks coming and going I finally find someone with jumper cables. After 15 seconds she starts. I ride home and no issues for the ride, even idling at stop lights.

My questions:
1. What are the chances it's the battery? I would think that if it was a charging issue that the bike would have stalled out on the trip home, but she ran fine.
2. I have heard jumping a bike can do damage... is the risk to the battery (which is probably already dead) or is the risk to something else like the computer or charging system?
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Ares X on Aug 12, 2021, 09:57:39 am
I've jumped started both the Raider and the Stryker.  Just do not start the engine of the vehicle you're jumping from.

I've also jump started my Raider from my wife's Stryker.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: FireNative on Aug 12, 2021, 10:27:40 am
No matter what battery you get I would 100% recommend this small portable NOCO battery jumper, direct to battery cables with plug for jumper and adaptor to plug directly for trickle charging. The jumper comes with post clamps but with the wire to battery you can just plug it in and jump.

Noco GB40, 1000amp small portable jumper good for up to 6.0L gas and 3.0L Diesel $99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015TKUPIC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1

NOCO GBC009 Boost 18.5-Inch SAE Adapter Extension Cable For GB20/GB40/GB50 plug for jumper and SAE (trickle chargers) $22
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072F9HS2B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

or NOCO GC002 X-Connect M6 Eyelet Terminal Accessory For NOCO Genius Smart Battery Chargers $10
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NOCO GC009 X-Connect SAE Adapter Accessory For NOCO Genius Smart Battery Chargers $8
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NOCO Genus 1 battery charger for 12v, 12v AGM, 12v lithium, and 6v batteries $30
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Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ROADKILL on Aug 12, 2021, 11:09:34 am
I went with this battery: Battery Tender BTL14A300CW Supersmart BMS Lithium Battery, 12V 5.0Ah, 300CCA, Black
I put one in my warrior and put one in my Raider when I got her. The battery fits in the stock battery box without modification, but it is basically a line-to-line fit.
In the warrior the difference was night and day compared to the AGM. She spun so quick!
In the raider she spins a tiny bit quicker than the AGM that came out of her but not a ton and it really depends on the outside temp. I would say around 45F the LI and AGM are equal. At 75F she spins much stronger with the LI.

I had a fun morning, so I thought I would go back and see when I actually purchased this battery. I haven't ridden the Raider in 2-3 weeks (other bike and vacation). I went out to start her up around 5am this morning... >CLICK<... the engine doesn't turn over. I know sometimes the battery has to 'warm' up a bit so I try a few more times and she turns over and starts. I think, "It'll charge up on my way to the gym." It's a 12 minute ride to the gym, but I figured it would have a bit more juice after the short ride and it WAS able to start the bike at home. I leave the gym around 6:30 and... >CLICK<... but weaker. Then she just gave up all together. I pushed it up the hill in the parking lot (getting my second workout for the day) and then proceeded to try to push start her 3 times... no go. After asking folks coming and going I finally find someone with jumper cables. After 15 seconds she starts. I ride home and no issues for the ride, even idling at stop lights.

My questions:
1. What are the chances it's the battery? I would think that if it was a charging issue that the bike would have stalled out on the trip home, but she ran fine.
2. I have heard jumping a bike can do damage... is the risk to the battery (which is probably already dead) or is the risk to something else like the computer or charging system?
Sounds like you might need to clean your battery terminals and make sure they are tight - if there isn't a good connection the battery won't charge and if the battery is real low 12 minute ride won't do it - you might have a dead cell - get the battery tested.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Ares X on Aug 12, 2021, 11:14:25 am
No matter what battery you get I would 100% recommend this small portable NOCO battery jumper, direct to battery cables with plug for jumper and adaptor to plug directly for trickle charging. The jumper comes with post clamps but with the wire to battery you can just plug it in and jump.

I used to carry one of these jumpers in both my bike and in our truck and found that every time it was needed it was dead. Then one day I discovered the one in my saddlebags was swelling and I stopped carrying them. They're great if they're charged, but they lose charge over time and you need to keep them charged regularly.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Dudeman on Aug 12, 2021, 11:15:51 am
No matter what battery you get I would 100% recommend this small portable NOCO battery jumper, direct to battery cables with plug for jumper and adaptor to plug directly for trickle charging. The jumper comes with post clamps but with the wire to battery you can just plug it in and jump.

I used to carry one of these jumpers in both my bike and in our truck and found that every time it was needed it was dead. Then one day I discovered the one in my saddlebags was swelling and I stopped carrying them. They're great if they're charged, but they lose charge over time and you need to keep them charged regularly.

I'd rather just keep my bikes on trickle chargers when I'm not riding.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Ares X on Aug 12, 2021, 11:21:41 am
No matter what battery you get I would 100% recommend this small portable NOCO battery jumper, direct to battery cables with plug for jumper and adaptor to plug directly for trickle charging. The jumper comes with post clamps but with the wire to battery you can just plug it in and jump.

I used to carry one of these jumpers in both my bike and in our truck and found that every time it was needed it was dead. Then one day I discovered the one in my saddlebags was swelling and I stopped carrying them. They're great if they're charged, but they lose charge over time and you need to keep them charged regularly.

I'd rather just keep my bikes on trickle chargers when I'm not riding.

Yep!  That's what we do. We have three trickle chargers on the wall for all three bikes. I look over from time to time to make sure they're all solid green.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: 2012CVKNebulasRaider on Aug 12, 2021, 11:31:39 am
I purchased a Parts Unlimited LiFePO4 Lithium Ė Ion Battery from Eastern Performance back on 03/11/2021 and it has been working great. https://www.easternperformance.com/
Part # DS21130685
Features I like:
-Itís a 10th of the weight of a normal battery (maybe 2lbs)
-The battery has a test button on top of the battery showing if it is at full charge capacity.
-This battery maintains its charge. You donít need to keep any battery tender on it.
-The battery does not give actual CCA (cold cranking amps) ratings but it is definitely cranking above 250amps
-All I have to do is bump the start button and it fires up.
-This Ion battery is supposed to last twice as long as conventional batteries, AGM or Acid.
Possible down sides: 
-Could be affected by extreme cold temps which wont bother me here in Marietta GA.
-The battery is about a Ĺ inch shorter than the normal battery that fits in the Raider battery box. So, I cut some packing Styrofoam the dimensions of the bottom of the box with a Ĺ inch height as a spacer.
Hope this helps!

Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ROADKILL on Aug 12, 2021, 11:46:18 am
No matter what battery you get I would 100% recommend this small portable NOCO battery jumper, direct to battery cables with plug for jumper and adaptor to plug directly for trickle charging. The jumper comes with post clamps but with the wire to battery you can just plug it in and jump.

I used to carry one of these jumpers in both my bike and in our truck and found that every time it was needed it was dead. Then one day I discovered the one in my saddlebags was swelling and I stopped carrying them. They're great if they're charged, but they lose charge over time and you need to keep them charged regularly.

I'd rather just keep my bikes on trickle chargers when I'm not riding.

Yep!  That's what we do. We have three trickle chargers on the wall for all three bikes. I look over from time to time to make sure they're all solid green.
A trickle charger will show the battery is fully charged even if it has a dead cell.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Ares X on Aug 12, 2021, 12:05:02 pm
No matter what battery you get I would 100% recommend this small portable NOCO battery jumper, direct to battery cables with plug for jumper and adaptor to plug directly for trickle charging. The jumper comes with post clamps but with the wire to battery you can just plug it in and jump.

I used to carry one of these jumpers in both my bike and in our truck and found that every time it was needed it was dead. Then one day I discovered the one in my saddlebags was swelling and I stopped carrying them. They're great if they're charged, but they lose charge over time and you need to keep them charged regularly.

I'd rather just keep my bikes on trickle chargers when I'm not riding.

Yep!  That's what we do. We have three trickle chargers on the wall for all three bikes. I look over from time to time to make sure they're all solid green.
A trickle charger will show the battery is fully charged even if it has a dead cell.

Yeah, I've seen that, but if it's not solid green it means it's disconnected.  I have definitely increased the life of my batteries by trickle charging. I was lucky to get one year on a motorcycle battery here in AZ until I started keeping it charged.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: heftysmurf on Aug 12, 2021, 01:48:41 pm
What charger do you use with this battery?
I purchased a Parts Unlimited LiFePO4 Lithium Ė Ion Battery from Eastern Performance back on 03/11/2021 and it has been working great. https://www.easternperformance.com/
Part # DS21130685
Features I like:
-Itís a 10th of the weight of a normal battery (maybe 2lbs)
-The battery has a test button on top of the battery showing if it is at full charge capacity.
-This battery maintains its charge. You donít need to keep any battery tender on it.
-The battery does not give actual CCA (cold cranking amps) ratings but it is definitely cranking above 250amps
-All I have to do is bump the start button and it fires up.
-This Ion battery is supposed to last twice as long as conventional batteries, AGM or Acid.
Possible down sides: 
-Could be affected by extreme cold temps which wont bother me here in Marietta GA.
-The battery is about a Ĺ inch shorter than the normal battery that fits in the Raider battery box. So, I cut some packing Styrofoam the dimensions of the bottom of the box with a Ĺ inch height as a spacer.
Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Dirtiegirtie on Aug 12, 2021, 02:03:19 pm
Hefty!!! Where the hell you been?!? I hope life has been good over the last year or so.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: FireNative on Aug 12, 2021, 04:11:24 pm
No matter what battery you get I would 100% recommend this small portable NOCO battery jumper, direct to battery cables with plug for jumper and adaptor to plug directly for trickle charging. The jumper comes with post clamps but with the wire to battery you can just plug it in and jump.

I used to carry one of these jumpers in both my bike and in our truck and found that every time it was needed it was dead. Then one day I discovered the one in my saddlebags was swelling and I stopped carrying them. They're great if they're charged, but they lose charge over time and you need to keep them charged regularly.

What I do is keep one jumper in my truck and charge the first of the month so it is recharged and full every month and I keep it in my center console or under my rear seats. I keep my jumper for my bike in the house and charge it the day before a long multiday trips but to each their own. My bike is outside under a carport so it wouldn't be feasible to keep it on a trickle charge but in a closed in garage on charge would be the best scenario
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: 2012CVKNebulasRaider on Aug 13, 2021, 09:57:37 am
You need a charging system/regulator that keeps the voltage between 13.8 and 14.5 volts.

You canít use a regular lead acid battery chargers. They tend to over charge & can damage the lithium-Ion battery. You need a regulated battery charger that want over charge the battery.

Here are a couple I found.
From Battery Tender model # 022-0199 & BikeMaster model # 150906. But, as long as you are cranking the bike up at least once a month you donít even need the charger.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: FireNative on Aug 13, 2021, 01:48:50 pm
You need a charging system/regulator that keeps the voltage between 13.8 and 14.5 volts.

You canít use a regular lead acid battery chargers. They tend to over charge & can damage the lithium-Ion battery. You need a regulated battery charger that want over charge the battery.

Here are a couple I found.
From Battery Tender model # 022-0199 & BikeMaster model # 150906. But, as long as you are cranking the bike up at least once a month you donít even need the charger.

The NOCO battery charger is a trickle 1amp charger and has a selector for 12v lead, AFG, Ion, and 6v and it is supposed to sense when the battery is full or too hot and stop charging. All for $30

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W46BX31/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Badbluraider on Aug 14, 2021, 06:25:34 pm
Shorai ;D
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: RangerRick on Aug 15, 2021, 07:55:16 am
Shorai ;D

Yep that's what I had in my Raider, and now in my Honda ;)
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: toy on Aug 15, 2021, 09:56:16 am
I put a antigravity in bike before 2013 riding season. that makes this the 9th season on bike. optimate tender for winter.
Also bought my dad the antigravity booster (xp-10) and he uses it to jump his 100hp kubota and once on his f350, he said he was amazed it worked... If you know what kind of battery cca's those two take to turn you will understand why this impresses me.

those two examples are the reasons ill continue using them. and yes I know its an expensive battery. but 9 yrs of solid bike turning and its still going... never struggles on the raider.
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: Fiddles on Aug 15, 2021, 11:26:06 am
I put a antigravity in bike before 2013 riding season. that makes this the 9th season on bike. optimate tender for winter.
Also bought my dad the antigravity booster (xp-10) and he uses it to jump his 100hp kubota and once on his f350, he said he was amazed it worked... If you know what kind of battery cca's those two take to turn you will understand why this impresses me.

those two examples are the reasons ill continue using them. and yes I know its an expensive battery. but 9 yrs of solid bike turning and its still going... never struggles on the raider.
that well be my next battery,  480 cca!
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ZEUS67 on Aug 15, 2021, 07:41:53 pm
Just looked into the antigravity batteries but can't find one for the Raider. Did you have to modify the box and squeeze the one for the Warrior into it?
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: toy on Aug 16, 2021, 07:00:30 am
Just looked into the antigravity batteries but can't find one for the Raider. Did you have to modify the box and squeeze the one for the Warrior into it?
at12-bs is same dimensions as yt12-bs that i bought. it had extra room. wasnt a squeeze.

https://antigravitybatteries.com/products/starter-batteries/restart-oem/at12bs-hd-rs/
Title: Re: Batteries: which battery do you people recommend for the Raider.
Post by: ZEUS67 on Aug 16, 2021, 07:39:48 am
Thanks Toy. When I first looked at it I thought it said 3.3 in for the width. Definitely looks the same as OEM. Thanks again!