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Title: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: BorderlandBiker on Nov 10, 2020, 02:38:46 pm
Polaris, home of the Indian motorcycle, 'may' (operative word is may) bring back the Victory??? Dealerships have had a high demand for the Victory and have passed it on to Corporate...I'll believe it when I see it...I believe Yamaha made a mistake dropping the Road Warrior and the Raider...Suzuki decided to 'not' drop the M109...PEACE RIDE  O8O SAFE
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Ares X on Nov 10, 2020, 05:19:17 pm
That's cool because Victory was my second choice after the Raider.
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: ZEUS67 on Nov 10, 2020, 05:36:52 pm
My second choice after the Raider was either a Victory Hammer or Vegas 8 ball. Love the look and power of all three bikes. I wish Yamaha would bring back both the Raider and the Warrior. As of now they lack a power cruiser other than the V Max which I consider more of a naked sportbike than a cruiser
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Ares X on Nov 10, 2020, 06:39:38 pm
My second choice after the Raider was either a Victory Hammer or Vegas 8 ball. Love the look and power of all three bikes. I wish Yamaha would bring back both the Raider and the Warrior. As of now they lack a power cruiser other than the V Max which I consider more of a naked sportbike than a cruiser

I agree with all of this.

My wife was debating between getting a new '11 Stryker and a used 8-Ball. She opted for the Stryker since it was new and just had a cleaner look to her.
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: ZEUS67 on Nov 10, 2020, 08:31:50 pm
Almost bought a Stryker before the Raider but didn't want to regret not going with the bigger motor
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: A.T. on Nov 10, 2020, 09:12:21 pm
Where did you see this?
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: StrykerBilly on Nov 11, 2020, 08:14:18 am
Be cool if Victory comes back but Yamaha is more complicated IMO.

HD, Indian and Victory had the advantage of sharing motors and powertrains.  Yamaha was all over the place so much more R&D plus more costs to keep inventory stocks.  We had 3-4 bikes sharing a motor at the high point I believe and that is simply harder.

Plus Yamaha already has the diversification that HD has tried to obtain for years.  Granted they totally shunned those of us in the cruiser segment recently but I bet their sales numbers support that choice.  Love the new MT09 or not, Mother Yamaha spent a fair amount of time redoing that bike.  Personally I rode the previous one and really liked it...
I think the reality is that Yamaha will come in and out of segments as they change.
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Badbluraider on Nov 14, 2020, 05:48:02 pm
My second choice after the Raider was either a Victory Hammer or Vegas 8 ball. Love the look and power of all three bikes. I wish Yamaha would bring back both the Raider and the Warrior. As of now they lack a power cruiser other than the V Max which I consider more of a naked sportbike than a cruiser
:agree: Almost had my father-in-laws Jackpot until his other son-in-law got his hold on it. The metallic paints are unreal on the Victory's like none I had ever seen. Also loved that 6 speed tranny. I have had my second VMax(Gen2) for about 3 months now and it is definitely not what I consider to be any type of cruiser. A monster of muscle and does handle better than some of my sport bikes. ;D
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: ZEUS67 on Nov 15, 2020, 10:51:34 am
If I could afford (or should I say "allowed" to have) 2 bikes i would have my raider and the vmax. You're a lucky guy to have them both at the same time!
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Badbluraider on Nov 16, 2020, 06:43:33 am
If I could afford (or should I say "allowed" to have) 2 bikes i would have my raider and the vmax. You're a lucky guy to have them both at the same time!
:agree: Blessed to have both and both are Galaxy Blue, my color. 14 Raider and 16 VMax.
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: ZEUS67 on Nov 16, 2020, 08:44:26 pm
Didn't realize the VMax had shaft drive.....interesting
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Badbluraider on Nov 17, 2020, 06:42:44 am
Didn't realize the VMax had shaft drive.....interesting
Yeah they have been driveshaft since first year of 85. I never had any issues with my 85 in the seven years I owned it. In corner I don't see any difference, now maybe someone that runs on the track all the time may have a different view. The only downside to me which I have already looked into trying to go to a taller gear but since it's not a pulley or sprocket you have what you have...
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: ZEUS67 on Nov 17, 2020, 04:49:42 pm
I had a Honda VFR 1200 with shaft drive. Never had any issues and it was virtually maintenance free
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Badbluraider on Nov 18, 2020, 06:36:22 am
I had a Honda VFR 1200 with shaft drive. Never had any issues and it was virtually maintenance free
:agree:
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Ares X on Nov 18, 2020, 09:52:59 am
I'm guessing the original topic of this thread has been completely derailed. 
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Dirtiegirtie on Nov 18, 2020, 10:24:09 am
I'm guessing the original topic of this thread has been completely derailed.

It was something about polar bears, right?
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Ares X on Nov 18, 2020, 12:44:28 pm
I'm guessing the original topic of this thread has been completely derailed.

It was something about polar bears, right?

I think so.
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Badbluraider on Nov 18, 2020, 07:54:12 pm
No Victory's are not driveshaft, belt driven ;D
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: cobaltss01 on Nov 23, 2020, 02:40:20 pm
Vmax and the R6 have been cut from the line up. I was said to hear about the VMAX.
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Badbluraider on Nov 23, 2020, 08:23:27 pm
Vmax and the R6 have been cut from the line up. I was said to hear about the VMAX.
:agree: Me too since I just bought a VMax 3 months ago. So now I have two bikes that Yamaha has discontinued.
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Clayton on Nov 24, 2020, 07:27:25 am
Vmax and the R6 have been cut from the line up. I was said to hear about the VMAX.
:agree: Me too since I just bought a VMax 3 months ago. So now I have two bikes that Yamaha has discontinued.
Vmax will go up in value now!
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: Badbluraider on Nov 24, 2020, 06:11:17 pm
Vmax and the R6 have been cut from the line up. I was said to hear about the VMAX.
:agree: Me too since I just bought a VMax 3 months ago. So now I have two bikes that Yamaha has discontinued.
Vmax will go up in value now!
:thumbs: Yeah, hope so...
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: ernie on Jan 14, 2021, 03:11:24 pm
If I could afford (or should I say "allowed" to have) 2 bikes i would have my raider and the vmax. You're a lucky guy to have them both at the same time!
:agree: Blessed to have both and both are Galaxy Blue, my color. 14 Raider and 16 VMax.

Iím on Reddit a lot and learned EU got the MT-01, a Naked Warrior! If I were to get a second bike, that would be high on my list. Iíve heard of folks importing them from Canada. Does anyone have experience with them? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_MT-01
Title: Re: Polaris 'may' bring back the Victory...Yamaha are you listening???
Post by: cobaltss01 on Jan 16, 2021, 02:14:41 pm
The only thing I keep hearing from yamaha is  screw america.