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Title: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: RangerRick on Sep 07, 2012, 09:20:20 am
For a POS Starter. In the garbage this goes >:( The hell with trying to re-glue the magnets like was posted on the second link below. :rolleyes:

https://www.roadstarraider.com/index.php?topic=17597.0

https://www.roadstarraider.com/index.php?topic=17619.0

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Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Mr. T on Sep 07, 2012, 09:37:42 am
WOW!!

I wonder if this is cover under Yamaha's Y.E.S. ?
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Capt_Zoom on Sep 07, 2012, 10:17:21 am
Not great but its still probably repairable.  File the magnet down and JB weld that sucker. 

There are probably some on ebay as well. 

Not sure if its the same part number but this might work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/S3-YAMAHA-07-XV1900CTSW-STRATOLINER-S-XV1900-STARTER-1D7-81890-01-00-RAIDER-/261082183174?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cc9b5f606&vxp=mtr
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Motorhead on Sep 07, 2012, 10:46:20 am
WOW!!

I wonder if this is cover under Yamaha's Y.E.S. ?

I'd say it is. But I'm not sure how the dealer/Yamaha thinks about Rick doing the work. They may want a 'certified Yamaha mechanic' to install it in order for the warranty to be valid. Or they may not give a crap. Who knows. So dont pitch that old starter yet Rick!

In any reguard it can always be wose Rick. At least its an easy fix and you'll be back on the road soon.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: blaine563 on Sep 07, 2012, 10:52:17 am
I agree, don't chuck it yet! Your dealer should be shown this. They might be able to get you some kind of Yamaha policy replacement because of the failure. Also, Yamaha if they knew about this would probably go after whoever manufactures the starter for them, and if its a trend of more than a few, that's how recalls get started. Hit em up and see what they will do for you!

Good luck!

Blaine :) :raider: :)
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: RangerRick on Sep 07, 2012, 07:48:29 pm
Seems Yamaha knew about this and finally did an upgrade.


http://www.mybikeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24031

from the above link

By the way there in new part number, it is 1D7818900100, the new part number according Yamaha is being issue due a upgrades in the current starter now offered on the 2012 Yamaha Raider. They said they weren't issuing a recall though due to the magnets issue, although it has been presiously reported . This part # is the same used on the Stratoliner and Rooadliner Models with the 1900.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: seventhLetter on Sep 07, 2012, 07:49:42 pm
On non-safety related equipment failure, they will most likely just upgrade the part in question rather than do a full on recall. Your bike not starting won't get you into a wreck.  If the brakes are failing (for example) that would be entirely different.

*and there ya go*
(RangerRick's post)

Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: RangerRick on Sep 07, 2012, 09:12:00 pm
I just went ahead today and ordered the new upgraded Starter from Tejas. I did not want the hassle of hauling the bike 50+ mile one way to the dealer and then having to wait on them. May mention this to them but doubt I can use my YES to get reimbursed.

I would rebuild the old one for a spare, But Yamaha don't sell the housing with Magnets, or the Armature.  >:( WTF
Title: Re: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: v8_vega on Sep 09, 2012, 11:29:09 am
I would rebuild the old one for a spare, But Yamaha don't sell the housing with Magnets, or the Armature.  >:( WTF

Because they don't manufacture it. They get starters already built so they sell them that way.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: BlueBlurRider on Mar 29, 2014, 09:09:12 pm
They probably don't want us rebuilding it. Saves too much money. I've had those certified yamaha monkeys jack with my bike the whole time it's been covered.  I finally let it go this month.  Three biggest things that stuck in my mind with them were
1) brand new v&h pipes scratched at install
2) chip that they wouldn't repair first 6 mos I had it.  Said I did it. It was under dash by 1/8 th inch. Lol.  I dint do it
3) crammed new 240 avon on against upper cobra belt cover and test drove it sizzling the fine edge of side wall off.   Called me 3 1/2 hrs later when the mechanics were gone and service rep said they weren't responsible for aftermarket part issues. 

Other situations too! Combination of three shops.  None worth a damn. Can't be trusted.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: mddrummer911 on Mar 29, 2014, 09:12:58 pm
What brand is the starter?  Denso?  May can get parts to rebuild it from the manufacturer of the starter
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: RangerRick on Mar 30, 2014, 08:55:43 am
What brand is the starter?  Denso?  May can get parts to rebuild it from the manufacturer of the starter

I have no clue. I do have the parts still in a box. At least the Armature is fine and reusable, as well as the two ends off the old starter. ;D
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: BlueBlurRider on Mar 30, 2014, 09:05:37 am
Have the sad feeling this is possibly going to be a job for me this summer too :(
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: sweet tea man on Mar 30, 2014, 06:03:56 pm
Question s:

What happened to the starter? 

What is yamaha YES?
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: mddrummer911 on Mar 30, 2014, 06:26:19 pm
Magnets came loose

Yamaha extended service
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Tail dragger on Mar 30, 2014, 06:51:10 pm
Think this (magnets coming loose) has happened to a couple of people.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: mddrummer911 on Mar 30, 2014, 06:53:56 pm
Not the first starter I've seen do this.  I had a bombardier ds650x four wheeler that I went through a few starters for this reason. 
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: RangerRick on Mar 30, 2014, 07:53:18 pm
Think this (magnets coming loose) has happened to a couple of people.

Yes, one member on here tried to re-glue the magnets, but did not realize they are pole oriented, so ended up with the starter turning over the wrong way.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Phalcun on Apr 13, 2014, 06:07:33 pm
Jumped on my bike this weekend for awesome ride to the coast today and no starter, bikes been hard starting all winter and I have been putting starter repair off for awhile but thanks to RangerRick and some others talking about this I kinda already knew I had magnets coming loose.  I called 2 local dealers (35 and 45 miles away), they haven't heard of this issue and no idea if warranty would cover, the first jerk I talked to only would say that they could service my bike then submit for warranty and then only would they know if it was covered, but if there was nothing wrong with starter it would cost me, I said I was looking at loose magnets and he couldn't accept that was even a possibility.  Other dealership laughed and said he could lose his franchise if I replaced my starter with $200 Chinese one and brought Yami one to him along with my bike so he could see it then run it through warranty and get me a Yami starter back on bike.  I don't want to be without bike and sure don't like the idea of anyone else touching my bike, good grief it's only a starter, 10 minute replace.  I have worked at heavy equipment dealerships for nearly 40 years and we always give a pretty clear estimate what if any out of pocket expenses are gonna be, we definitely try to work with customer if it saves time or money also.  I finally called a Portland dealer (70 miles) and he said he didn't know why there would be a problem with bringing him my old starter and he figured that Yamaha would warranty starter, thank goodness I was starting to think that Yami's Y.E.S. plan should be NFI (No F****** Idea) plan.  Sorry to vent but weather is still awesome outside and I am not riding,  pissed at myself for not getting to this sooner.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Tail dragger on Apr 13, 2014, 06:49:02 pm
Isn't it terrible that you talk to different dealers and each says something different.  Beginning to sound like they work for the government.  Hope you get it taken care of and it's covered by the warranty.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Phalcun on Apr 13, 2014, 07:56:02 pm
Thanks TD, I won't be without the bike for too long.  I would like to use the warranty once at least, I got 5 year extended and it runs out in November.  I never go for warranty contracts but sounded like a good idea at the time, I also didn't realize what caliber dealers I had locally, I bought the bike from a decent dealer up in Washington.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: 67p912 on Apr 14, 2014, 05:15:32 am
Jumped on my bike this weekend for awesome ride to the coast today and no starter, bikes been hard starting all winter and I have been putting starter repair off for awhile but thanks to RangerRick and some others talking about this I kinda already knew I had magnets coming loose.  I called 2 local dealers (35 and 45 miles away), they haven't heard of this issue and no idea if warranty would cover, the first jerk I talked to only would say that they could service my bike then submit for warranty and then only would they know if it was covered, but if there was nothing wrong with starter it would cost me, I said I was looking at loose magnets and he couldn't accept that was even a possibility.  Other dealership laughed and said he could lose his franchise if I replaced my starter with $200 Chinese one and brought Yami one to him along with my bike so he could see it then run it through warranty and get me a Yami starter back on bike.  I don't want to be without bike and sure don't like the idea of anyone else touching my bike, good grief it's only a starter, 10 minute replace.  I have worked at heavy equipment dealerships for nearly 40 years and we always give a pretty clear estimate what if any out of pocket expenses are gonna be, we definitely try to work with customer if it saves time or money also.  I finally called a Portland dealer (70 miles) and he said he didn't know why there would be a problem with bringing him my old starter and he figured that Yamaha would warranty starter, thank goodness I was starting to think that Yami's Y.E.S. plan should be NFI (No F****** Idea) plan.  Sorry to vent but weather is still awesome outside and I am not riding,  pissed at myself for not getting to this sooner.

If you don't mind me asking what dealer in Portland?  Also, you said you bought it at a decent dealer in Washington?
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Tail dragger on Apr 14, 2014, 06:29:50 am
Thanks TD, I won't be without the bike for too long.  I would like to use the warranty once at least, I got 5 year extended and it runs out in November.  I never go for warranty contracts but sounded like a good idea at the time, I also didn't realize what caliber dealers I had locally, I bought the bike from a decent dealer up in Washington.
I think there are good dealers out there, but they are not always easy to find.  Even if you find a good one, seems like consistency just isn't always there.  They do well in one area, but are lacking in another.  Don't blame you for wanting to use the warranty at least once.  Getting something for what you paid out your money for.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Phalcun on Apr 14, 2014, 09:15:07 pm
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If you don't mind me asking what dealer in Portland?  Also, you said you bought it at a decent dealer in Washington?
Yamaha Sportsplaza is the place, in Fairview just off I-84, I've spent a few bucks there on parts, their internet parts prices are the best I've found, never contacted their service dept until this weekend though.  I bought bike, slightly used (repo I imagine) from Powersports up in CentraliaWA, they treated me great on purchase and all the paperwork passed the first time here in Oregon, usually a pain to buy outta state here they tell me. 
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: 67p912 on Apr 14, 2014, 09:57:19 pm
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If you don't mind me asking what dealer in Portland?  Also, you said you bought it at a decent dealer in Washington?
Yamaha Sportsplaza is the place, in Fairview just off I-84, I've spent a few bucks there on parts, their internet parts prices are the best I've found, never contacted their service dept until this weekend though.  I bought bike, slightly used (repo I imagine) from Powersports up in CentraliaWA, they treated me great on purchase and all the paperwork passed the first time here in Oregon, usually a pain to buy outta state here they tell me.

That is where I saw the Raider SCL that sold me on getting a Raider. ;D  My local Yamaha dealership ProCaliber in Vancouver is pretty expensive.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Phalcun on Apr 24, 2014, 09:03:51 pm
My bike is going again, new starter, covered by warranty, cranks engine over with more speed and power than old one had for sometime and engine starts a lot easier too.  Real impressed with Sportsplaza, Portland, especially Steve in service, without going into any details I couldn't be happier how things worked out.  Steve was no nonsense, got things going quickly and professionally, I believe he treated me and my problem like he would expect others to treat him.  MY 2009 Raider still has a few months warranty left and I should have 75000 or 80000 miles on it when it expires (talking warranty not bike here!), I bet she makes it without more issues but if it does I'll head straight to Sportsplaza, just wished they weren't so far away, I gotta check out the new FZ-09, love the look (and price) of that one.......
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: MyRaider on Apr 24, 2014, 09:09:53 pm
FZ09
 :firstplace: :awesome: :thewave: :thewave: :thewave: :thumbs:

I got the Inspiration for all those Supermotards

Pan to right I gotta crop this

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Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: 102~2~113 on Apr 24, 2014, 09:22:36 pm
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If you don't mind me asking what dealer in Portland?  Also, you said you bought it at a decent dealer in Washington?
Yamaha Sportsplaza is the place, in Fairview just off I-84, I've spent a few bucks there on parts, their internet parts prices are the best I've found, never contacted their service dept until this weekend though.  I bought bike, slightly used (repo I imagine) from Powersports up in CentraliaWA, they treated me great on purchase and all the paperwork passed the first time here in Oregon, usually a pain to buy outta state here they tell me.
+1 for Yamaha Sportsplaza!  They're too far away for me to visit but buy all my OEM parts from them. 
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Phalcun on Apr 24, 2014, 09:49:25 pm
You got the best of both worlds MyRaider, I wonder which would be better suited for the really twisty mountain roads around here?  The Raider, industries longest wheelbase production hot rod or your quick red TDM.  Only bad thing against the FZ-09 I've read in reviews is small gas tank but am about used to that on the Raider, other major drawback I see is lack of chrome.  I like the Raider in the twistys ok and love it for the long hauls but gotta think the sportbike would be a blast to have around
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: MyRaider on Apr 24, 2014, 10:17:05 pm
You got the best of both worlds MyRaider, I wonder which would be better suited for the really twisty mountain roads around here?  The Raider, industries longest wheelbase production hot rod or your quick red TDM.  Only bad thing against the FZ-09 I've read in reviews is small gas tank but am about used to that on the Raider, other major drawback I see is lack of chrome.  I like the Raider in the twistys ok and love it for the long hauls but gotta think the sportbike would be a blast to have around


I have had that bike since new in 92 and have to say has been the most reliable bike I have ever owned.

The thing I love about it you not hunched over like typical rice rocket, your sitting straight up like an XR600.

But back when I had no brains was sick picked it up in 2nd and go right through the gears I would wheelie that bike for miles don't no how I didn't blow motor with no oil getting to were it supposed to.

Had a cop follow me for over a mile didn't know he was there doing 80mph finally my friend noticed him made me put it down.

This cop said to me as I'm shitting brick you no how long I been behind you, I said I'm sorry officer I don't.

He said over a mile I was like I'm sorry officer.

Well he said that was awesome let me and my friend go and told us to holeshot as we pull away.

I was shocked but man did we laugh when we got back to the house.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Aaron5623 on Oct 05, 2014, 07:58:20 am
I'm also fed-up with my dealer's lack of quality workmanship,and have about three years left on my YES warranty. any one know If I keep all my receipt's on my oil changes,will I still have coverage if some thing bad happened inside my engine? I don't know if the dealership would be honest with me about it. The last time they did an oil change on my baby they used a whopping 2qts. of oil. I was watching them,then I went home and looked it up. Wow was I upset to say the least. So I do my own work on her now. Unless some thing major would come along. Anyway any one know if I would be covered?? :-\
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Fiddles on Oct 05, 2014, 08:42:05 am
I would think if you have documented proof of all the services done a at the dealer you should be covered but who knows what will happen with these Jack leg dealerships
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Tail dragger on Oct 05, 2014, 12:00:46 pm
Only 2 quarts in on an oil change???  The filter itself holds almost half that much.  Did they drain all three plugs?  Obviously the tech didn't read up or know how to change the oil on a Raider.  Did they actually document that they only used 2 quarts in?
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: CHROMINATOR on Oct 07, 2014, 04:32:15 am
I'm also fed-up with my dealer's lack of quality workmanship,and have about three years left on my YES warranty. any one know If I keep all my receipt's on my oil changes,will I still have coverage if some thing bad happened inside my engine? I don't know if the dealership would be honest with me about it. The last time they did an oil change on my baby they used a whopping 2qts. of oil. I was watching them,then I went home and looked it up. Wow was I upset to say the least. So I do my own work on her now. Unless some thing major would come along. Anyway any one know if I would be covered?? :-\

If it's documented you have nothing to worry about.  They are supposed to be certified techs and know all the aspects of the machines they work on from an oil change to tearing down the engine.  When you got home did you put any more oil in, and did it take it?
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Petey_08 on Oct 25, 2014, 08:39:35 am
I'm also fed-up with my dealer's lack of quality workmanship,and have about three years left on my YES warranty. any one know If I keep all my receipt's on my oil changes,will I still have coverage if some thing bad happened inside my engine? I don't know if the dealership would be honest with me about it. The last time they did an oil change on my baby they used a whopping 2qts. of oil. I was watching them,then I went home and looked it up. Wow was I upset to say the least. So I do my own work on her now. Unless some thing major would come along. Anyway any one know if I would be covered?? :-\

You should be covered by the Magnuson Moss act, as it is illegal to void a warranty based on who does the maintenance as long as it has been done. So keeping receipts and documenting everything (mileage, dates, amounts, even pictures before, during, and after) will ensure that you have more than enough to prove that the maintenance has been done. On a similar note, I had a very bad experience with my dealer. The outrageous costs turned me away (40 bucks to mount a tire that I can do with almost 0 tools) but the nail in the coffin was when I got my oil changed (I was a "little" past the recommended time) before I put my Roadliner up for almost a year. When I pulled it out I changed the oil again and it took me a minute to realize that they probably didn't do an oil change based on the amount of contamination in the oil, my lawn mower oil after 2 years wasn't as black as what came out of this bike. I won't even go in there for a bolt (again, prices, they wanted 90 bucks for front brake pads).
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Luke on May 04, 2015, 11:24:11 am
I have a 2011 and the starter will turn the motor over slowly.  Purchased new in August of 2013.  Kind of embarrassing when it should turn over quicker and start up better when you are in front of friends or what ever.  It wants to stop turning over sometimes when it hit the compression stroke.  I replaced the battery even when I tested the factory one and it was good.  The new battery seemed to help but now the starter is back to not performing as it should.  It should crank over fast and start up fairly quickly.  Am I mistaken?  Kind of frustrating.

So how do I go about getting the YES to replace this starter?

Does anyone have any suggestions?

I have not brought this up with a dealer yet a this point. FYI
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Blueridge Raider on May 04, 2015, 12:07:22 pm
Luke,

I have an 11 that I bought new in March of 13. Does the exact same thing when starting, so there is at least two of us. Also had a 08 that did the same thing ????
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: CHROMINATOR on May 04, 2015, 02:06:44 pm
I think all Raiders start slowly, it's not a bad starter, it's a huge engine.  Mine did it also and I thought it was because I had the 120ci kit.  I put a 348 CA battery to replace the 210 CA stock battery and it still starts the same way.  The only thing that is different is with the 210CA battery it would sometimes crank and stop for a second or two then continue.  Now it just cranks until it starts.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: RangerRick on May 04, 2015, 06:51:19 pm
My second starter acted up a couple of months ago,turns out one of the brushes was hanging up due to carbon dust. Took it apart and blew it out and so far it works fine. If you take the starter apart, it is possible to get the housing off and keep the armature in the bottom housing where the brushes are, but it's not easy cause the magnets want to pull the armature out as you remove the main housing. Then you have the fun of holding the 4 Brushes back in their housings as you put the armature back into the bottom housing, then if you don't hold the armature in place as you slide on the housing with the magnets, the armature will jump up to meet the magnets. Then you will swear profusely  :censored: :censored: :censored: as you have to start all over.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Luke on May 04, 2015, 08:16:55 pm
My second starter acted up a couple of months ago,turns out one of the brushes was hanging up due to carbon dust. Took it apart and blew it out and so far it works fine. If you take the starter apart, it is possible to get the housing off and keep the armature in the bottom housing where the brushes are, but it's not easy cause the magnets want to pull the armature out as you remove the main housing. Then you have the fun of holding the 4 magnets back in there housings as you put the armature back into the bottom housing, then if you don't hold the armature in place as you slide on the housing with the magnets, the armature will jump up to meet the magnets. Then you will swear profusely  :censored: :censored: :censored: as you have to start all over.
So as I gather all the information I have read,  One may need to perform some  type maintenance at some point.  So once I get tired of the performance of the starter, it is possible to take it apart and perform some type of maintenance to the starter.  This may need to be winter job.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Raider50 on Jun 14, 2016, 02:24:01 pm
Luke,

I have an 11 that I bought new in March of 13. Does the exact same thing when starting, so there is at least two of us. Also had a 08 that did the same thing ????

Got the same damn issue. HD guys were giving me shit about it last saturday. I would like to meet the guy that designed the starter an kick him right in the ballsack
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Luke on Jun 15, 2016, 12:00:49 pm
Luke,

I have an 11 that I bought new in March of 13. Does the exact same thing when starting, so there is at least two of us. Also had a 08 that did the same thing ????

Got the same damn issue. HD guys were giving me shit about it last saturday. I would like to meet the guy that designed the starter an kick him right in the ballsack
F the starter, can I change it over to a Kick start.   ;D . Starting to get tired of the performance of it.  I will join you with kicking him in the ballsack.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: dreadly on Jun 15, 2016, 05:15:27 pm
Can someone take a video of this elusive issue?  ;D
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Terry G. on Aug 31, 2016, 10:13:15 pm
Seems Yamaha knew about this and finally did an upgrade.


http://www.mybikeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24031  oh believe me id be back at the dealer. fo sho


from the above link

By the way there in new part number, it is 1D7818900100, the new part number according Yamaha is being issue due a upgrades in the current starter now offered on the 2012 Yamaha Raider. They said they weren't issuing a recall though due to the magnets issue, although it has been presiously reported . This part # is the same used on the Stratoliner and Rooadliner Models with the 1900.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: dashiznit1 on Sep 21, 2016, 11:06:52 pm
I feel your pain-yamaha made me a bike with a s**t tranny and I can't do anything but replace the whole gearbox...  :'(
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: Ares X on Sep 22, 2016, 10:37:06 am
I feel your pain-yamaha made me a bike with a s**t tranny and I can't do anything but replace the whole gearbox...  :'(

Have you tried calling Yamaha? When I had a problem with my fuel pump the second time I called and they covered the cost and it had been way out of warranty.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: ROADKILL on Sep 22, 2016, 03:03:34 pm
The only time mine clunked was when the engine was still kinda cold and shifting from neutral to 1st - this big V- twin will make some noise when the engine is running but that's pretty much normal.
Doesn't sound like the previous owner took very good care of it - good luck with it.
Title: Re: Thanks Yamaha :-(
Post by: dashiznit1 on Sep 22, 2016, 03:59:47 pm
I feel your pain-yamaha made me a bike with a s**t tranny and I can't do anything but replace the whole gearbox...  :'(

Have you tried calling Yamaha? When I had a problem with my fuel pump the second time I called and they covered the cost and it had been way out of warranty.

Haven't thought yamaha would do something like that, but I'll give it a try!