Fuel pump

[Roadstrat]

my problem is if the bike sits overnight it won't fire right away.
I usually hold the start button 2 or 3 secs and release if it does'nt
start. Then i hit the start again and it fires right up.
I can't see this being a pump issue but i could be wrong.

[RoadStarRaider]

[alludc]

my problem is if the bike sits overnight it won't fire right away.
I usually hold the start button 2 or 3 secs and release if it does'nt
start. Then i hit the start again and it fires right up.
I can't see this being a pump issue but i could be wrong.

id bet that even after it sat for an hour or two it would show the same.  FP leaks down too much.  Fairly certain AresX described that scenario in this thread, somewhere.

[the urban legend]

my problem is if the bike sits overnight it won't fire right away.
I usually hold the start button 2 or 3 secs and release if it does'nt
start. Then i hit the start again and it fires right up.
I can't see this being a pump issue but i could be wrong.

Could be.

The first time you crank,the pump is building up pressure.Then it's readily available on the second attempt so it starts right up.
I've never paid attention if the pump runs as soon as the ignition is turned on.With all the EXUP servo and IAC noise I can't hear the if the pump is going or not.I'll have to remove the seat and listen tomorrow morning.

My point is>>>If it does run as soon as you turn the key,you could try cycling the key on/off 3-4 times to prime the pressure before hitting the start button.If it starts right up that way,but doesn't if you just turn the key once and hit start,then you most likely have a fuel pressure leak.And since the pump housing seems to be the weak link,well........

[Petey_08]

my problem is if the bike sits overnight it won't fire right away.
I usually hold the start button 2 or 3 secs and release if it does'nt
start. Then i hit the start again and it fires right up.
I can't see this being a pump issue but i could be wrong.

This is the main problem my bike had with a cracked pump, it lost pressure as it sat. It would idle rough occasionally when it was warm, but the way you described starting your bike is exactly how I had to start mine.

[Roadstrat]

i don't have any of the other problems like stalling or hesitating etc and it will fire up after sitting
for 4 or 5 hrs.
If the pump is building up pressure on the first crank then it should fire eventually
if i hold the start button long enough(never held it longer than 5 sec)
But it fires on the second try..thats what confuses me.

[Ares X]

If I remember correctly, and granted it's been a couple of years, when I had fuel pump issues, you could hear it trying to start, but it wouldn't always start.  Also, when it did start, it sounded rough at first. My wife used to say it sounded like a Harley in the garage. It just sounded like it wanted to die.  New problems crept up as time went on. Running poorly in idle. Eventually stalling a few times. On my last one, the last day I was riding before it was fixed, I could feel it cutting out at high speed and then kicking back in.  It ran worst in the afternoons. Probably because the fuel was lower and the temps were hotter.

[Roadstrat]

when i try, it sounds like its just cranking and not trying to fire.
And no issues like you described.
thanx
I'm goin to try a few different scenarios when starting and see if anything new arises.

[Petey_08]

i don't have any of the other problems like stalling or hesitating etc and it will fire up after sitting
for 4 or 5 hrs.
If the pump is building up pressure on the first crank then it should fire eventually
if i hold the start button long enough(never held it longer than 5 sec)
But it fires on the second try..thats what confuses me.

I bought my bike with a bad fuel pump, so I can't tell you how the problems all arrived, but this is exactly how mine was. It didn't matter how long you held the start button the first time (held it for about 15 seconds one time with nothing) it would never start. Wait a few seconds, fired right up. It really only took a few turns the first time, let it sit, fired up. It did get worse, in the video I posted it didn't want to start at all, which was unusual. The other problems were intermittent, other than backfiring on decel. You may have the start of a crack, and over time it may just get worse. Then again, you may have a completely different problem.

[Roadstrat]

this morning i went out hit the start button on and off quickly so it only
cranked for half a sec. Hit it again and fired right up.
Now this problem has been goin on 2 yrs now. The odd time it would
fire up on first try. I would think it would have gotten a lot worse over time
and have more issues.
I'm thinking back and remembering something about the de-compression solenoid
someone mentioned as a cause!!

[Ares X]

this morning i went out hit the start button on and off quickly so it only
cranked for half a sec. Hit it again and fired right up.
Now this problem has been goin on 2 yrs now. The odd time it would
fire up on first try. I would think it would have gotten a lot worse over time
and have more issues.
I'm thinking back and remembering something about the de-compression solenoid
someone mentioned as a cause!!

I agree. The fuel pump issue wouldn't wait for two years.

[alludc]

this morning i went out hit the start button on and off quickly so it only
cranked for half a sec. Hit it again and fired right up.
Now this problem has been goin on 2 yrs now. The odd time it would
fire up on first try. I would think it would have gotten a lot worse over time
and have more issues.
I'm thinking back and remembering something about the de-compression solenoid
someone mentioned as a cause!!

I agree. The fuel pump issue wouldn't wait for two years.

I know guys who only ride 1000 miles a year, so it is possible for some folk.

[Ares X]

this morning i went out hit the start button on and off quickly so it only
cranked for half a sec. Hit it again and fired right up.
Now this problem has been goin on 2 yrs now. The odd time it would
fire up on first try. I would think it would have gotten a lot worse over time
and have more issues.
I'm thinking back and remembering something about the de-compression solenoid
someone mentioned as a cause!!

I agree. The fuel pump issue wouldn't wait for two years.

I know guys who only ride 1000 miles a year, so it is possible for some folk.

FREAKS!

[Roadstrat]

this morning i went out hit the start button on and off quickly so it only
cranked for half a sec. Hit it again and fired right up.
Now this problem has been goin on 2 yrs now. The odd time it would
fire up on first try. I would think it would have gotten a lot worse over time
and have more issues.
I'm thinking back and remembering something about the de-compression solenoid
someone mentioned as a cause!!

I agree. The fuel pump issue wouldn't wait for two years.

I know guys who only ride 1000 miles a year, so it is possible for some folk.

You could be right. Because of medical problems(going blind)i only managed
3000mi in the last two summers. Freaky.!!

[alludc]

From the 1st symptom (in hindsight), until undriveable...I had logged around 1800 miles.

[Roadstrat]

i wonder if the emissions warranty applies to Canadian bikes. Gonna give the dealer a call